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		<title>Comment on New Music&#8217;s Image Problem (Part 2) by Alex Temple</title>
		<link>http://www.alextemplemusic.com/2012/02/new-musics-image-problem-part-2/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Temple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A cultural stream of which they aren&#039;t a member&quot; — I hadn&#039;t thought of putting it that way, but it&#039;s exactly right.  A lot of people are also very intellectually intimidated by the classical music world.  I remember one of the first conversations I had with a friend of mine from college:  she heard that I was a composer, and immediately told me that she had &quot;bad taste in music.&quot;  Of course she didn&#039;t actually think the music she liked was bad;  she just assumed that &lt;em&gt;I&lt;/em&gt; would think that.  Instead, she wound up educating me about hip-hop and contemporary mainstream pop.

I think there&#039;s another problem, too, which is the assumption that every piece of classical music is trying to make a Very Serious Statement.  I think that&#039;s why I&#039;m fine with goofy irreverent song/album titles but find goofy irreverent piece titles annoying. In the latter case, I automatically assume that the composer is making a declaration about goofiness — which is no fun at all! — rather than simply being goofy.

As for &quot;interesting,&quot; I thought that was just polite-speak for &quot;I didn&#039;t like it.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A cultural stream of which they aren&#8217;t a member&#8221; — I hadn&#8217;t thought of putting it that way, but it&#8217;s exactly right.  A lot of people are also very intellectually intimidated by the classical music world.  I remember one of the first conversations I had with a friend of mine from college:  she heard that I was a composer, and immediately told me that she had &#8220;bad taste in music.&#8221;  Of course she didn&#8217;t actually think the music she liked was bad;  she just assumed that <em>I</em> would think that.  Instead, she wound up educating me about hip-hop and contemporary mainstream pop.</p>
<p>I think there&#8217;s another problem, too, which is the assumption that every piece of classical music is trying to make a Very Serious Statement.  I think that&#8217;s why I&#8217;m fine with goofy irreverent song/album titles but find goofy irreverent piece titles annoying. In the latter case, I automatically assume that the composer is making a declaration about goofiness — which is no fun at all! — rather than simply being goofy.</p>
<p>As for &#8220;interesting,&#8221; I thought that was just polite-speak for &#8220;I didn&#8217;t like it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Music&#8217;s Image Problem (Part 2) by Luke Gullickson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke Gullickson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 17:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve wondered about this for a long time as well. I&#039;ve made many CDs and playlists for culturally literate non-musician friends, and just saying a track is by a &quot;composer&quot; instead of by a &quot;band&quot; causes their eyes to glaze over. I don&#039;t think this is just a coolness issue -- it seems for most people words like &quot;composer&quot; indicate a cultural stream of which they aren&#039;t a member. They feel entitled to participate in pop-based music, but not in composer music -- so the problem is not that they dislike it, it&#039;s that they feel themselves outside of it, and hence lacking permission to pass judgment one way or the other.

This is why people at concert receptions say that a piece was &quot;interesting.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve wondered about this for a long time as well. I&#8217;ve made many CDs and playlists for culturally literate non-musician friends, and just saying a track is by a &#8220;composer&#8221; instead of by a &#8220;band&#8221; causes their eyes to glaze over. I don&#8217;t think this is just a coolness issue &#8212; it seems for most people words like &#8220;composer&#8221; indicate a cultural stream of which they aren&#8217;t a member. They feel entitled to participate in pop-based music, but not in composer music &#8212; so the problem is not that they dislike it, it&#8217;s that they feel themselves outside of it, and hence lacking permission to pass judgment one way or the other.</p>
<p>This is why people at concert receptions say that a piece was &#8220;interesting.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Program Notes and New Music&#8217;s Image Problem by New Music&#8217;s Image Problem (Part 2) &#8211; Alex Temple, Composer</title>
		<link>http://www.alextemplemusic.com/2012/02/program-notes-and-new-musics-image-problem/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>New Music&#8217;s Image Problem (Part 2) &#8211; Alex Temple, Composer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 04:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Program Notes and New Music&#8217;s Image Problem by Alex Temple</title>
		<link>http://www.alextemplemusic.com/2012/02/program-notes-and-new-musics-image-problem/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Temple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 02:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is one problem with putting new music concerts in venues where people want to socialize, though, and that&#039;s that a lot of sonic detail will be lost if people are eating and drinking.  It really depends what kind of music you&#039;re talking about, though.  Glenn Branca&#039;s symphonies for enormous numbers of electric guitars would work fine in a bar.  Salvatore Sciarrino&#039;s music, which relies on the contrast between almost inaudible sounds and violent interruptions, wouldn&#039;t work at all.

But people are quiet during plays, and arts-oriented people don&#039;t typically feel like going to a play is a chore.  I even know people in the new-music world who feel like going to new-music concerts is a chore.  That&#039;s a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is one problem with putting new music concerts in venues where people want to socialize, though, and that&#8217;s that a lot of sonic detail will be lost if people are eating and drinking.  It really depends what kind of music you&#8217;re talking about, though.  Glenn Branca&#8217;s symphonies for enormous numbers of electric guitars would work fine in a bar.  Salvatore Sciarrino&#8217;s music, which relies on the contrast between almost inaudible sounds and violent interruptions, wouldn&#8217;t work at all.</p>
<p>But people are quiet during plays, and arts-oriented people don&#8217;t typically feel like going to a play is a chore.  I even know people in the new-music world who feel like going to new-music concerts is a chore.  That&#8217;s a problem.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Program Notes and New Music&#8217;s Image Problem by Rachael Briggs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachael Briggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yay, comments!  I want to say a big yes to this idea:

&lt;blockquote&gt;playing in venues other than concert halls&lt;/blockquote&gt;

(Now we get to see if HTML works in comments too.)  As an artist, you&#039;ve got to work out where your art fits into people&#039;s lives.  Music events are things that people tend to do for entertainment and socialisation, so putting them in a venue where people want to socialise is a really good idea.  

Honestly, I think advertising is a big part of this--just planting the idea in people&#039;s heads that this is a thing they can do for fun.  One of the constraints with the arts is just advertising budgets--we&#039;ve got nothing on movie studios.

I&#039;m not sure I mind being told when to clap: there are very stylised cues in the theatre, and it&#039;s sort of comforting to know that everybody&#039;s on the same page.  A poet I saw recently enjoined everybody to hold their applause til the end of his set, which was also helpful--it seemed to make the room feel more relaxed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yay, comments!  I want to say a big yes to this idea:</p>
<blockquote><p>playing in venues other than concert halls</p></blockquote>
<p>(Now we get to see if HTML works in comments too.)  As an artist, you&#8217;ve got to work out where your art fits into people&#8217;s lives.  Music events are things that people tend to do for entertainment and socialisation, so putting them in a venue where people want to socialise is a really good idea.  </p>
<p>Honestly, I think advertising is a big part of this&#8211;just planting the idea in people&#8217;s heads that this is a thing they can do for fun.  One of the constraints with the arts is just advertising budgets&#8211;we&#8217;ve got nothing on movie studios.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure I mind being told when to clap: there are very stylised cues in the theatre, and it&#8217;s sort of comforting to know that everybody&#8217;s on the same page.  A poet I saw recently enjoined everybody to hold their applause til the end of his set, which was also helpful&#8211;it seemed to make the room feel more relaxed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Program Notes and New Music&#8217;s Image Problem by Elliot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Veni vidi commenti!</description>
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